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DanniusJule
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 52
Bisexual Female, 39
0 km · Berlin

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Forum Virgin

Hello, dear Canadians - who replied to our post, and who had sent us private messages -

Thank you very much for your warm welcome messages. Indeed, the differences between European and Canadian venues appear to be rather slim, or, at least, the differences between individual places are larger than the general differences between cotinents.

I understand that "on premises sex" is a legal issue, and it requires some  legal "workaround" to render a place private. We are not familiar to this concept, as - you might not believe it - sex in public is not illegal in Germany, unless it can be established that it disturbs a specific person who has a reason to be disturbed by it. So if it is clear that, at a specific place, other persons have sex, nobody may reasonably feel disturbed by it, and it is therefore legal. Therefore, not only specific swinger clubs, but also some dance clubs tolerate sex in their rooms. I understand that "membership fees" can, however, be incorporated into the price or charged extra. What seems t be a specific German phenomenon is that with a premium membership in certain swinger online communities, entrance fees get discounted.

The "dress to impress" applies to some places, and we think we will be able to deal with it, even though there will be the natural luggage restrictions for us as we will travel intercontinental. We will rather dress "lighter". :-) It seems that the "no gos" (coloured shorts, bathing shoes, old people's underwear, blue jeans, sneakers ...) are the same anyway. Also, the way of approaching people seems to be quite similar.

Here, the question whether people rather come to enjoy atmosphere, or are really willing to swap partners, rather depends on the announced party "format" (motto), than on the location. This eems to be a real difference: Most locations announce their party mottos for specific days well in advance, then open for online registration through one of the big platforms, and once the party is booked out, no new registration are accepted. In these announcements, it can happen that sentences like "we prefer participants to actively engage in activities; newbies or people who rather want to enjoy the atmosphere are rather advised to visit our other party XYZ ...". Nobody will be shown the door if they do not participate, but, however, people know what to expect. Many visitors do not really like the "glued couples" who appear to be insulated from the rest of the participants, so they prefer those parties. I wonder if there is a way in Ontario to discover what general attitude can be expected from one or the other location or party.

Forum Virgin

Hello, dear Canadians,

as we will be visiting Canada (Toronto, to be exact) in May 2020, and we neither know the Canadian (Ontario) swinger scene, nor any swinger there in person, we now try to reach out early in order to prepare for having a great time there. We do speak English, but unfortunately not French. As we are both not native speakers, it might appear to you that we use a somewhat "formal" language in this forum, as well. Please do not be irritated by that, we have not learned it otherwise.

However, we are experienced swingers from Berlin, Germany (that is in Europe, by the way smile); some details can be seen from our profile here. In Germany, we are members of the local equivalent to this platform, called "Joyclub" (perhaps some few of you even know it).

As it appears, there is quite a number of swinger clubs in Toronto - we are looking forward to visiting some.

Different countries have different written and unwritten rules, and as we all come from immigration countries (Canada and Germany), we know that we are quite tolerant towards obviously unwitting people coming from abroad, but, however, it is nevertheless better to be informed when arriving. Perhaps there are some "hacks" or simply things we would not expect when we come there from Europe? Are there any big differences? For example, we read something about "annual membership fees" - does this apply to one-time visitors in any case, as well (what are these fees there for)? Does the "clubwear" people wear (and, thus, the formal or informal dresscode) significantly differ from European standards? How do people approach each other? We read that visitors have to sign some document - what is that about, and does it have any significance?

And - are there any platforms or ways to sign up to a guest list, as it is quite common in Germany (there, you can sign up through "Joyclub", although not exclusively, and see who else, and how many people, will probably be attending)? Is it usual in Canada to contact the club by mail before visiting? And - after all these curious questions - would any couple then be happy to join us for a night out in Toronto (without "obligations", of course)? If many answer to all these questions we put here, we should be well prepared then. :) 

Best regards and see you soon

Jule and Dannius from Berlin